tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5570865557642304809.post3810211724658750509..comments2021-11-09T10:00:43.632-05:00Comments on A Mild Interest in Hemlines: Hijabi in FranceAlliehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17095657063693931200noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5570865557642304809.post-43891634152890707682011-04-12T14:15:18.678-04:002011-04-12T14:15:18.678-04:00sorry. *shouldn't be okay with anyone being t...sorry. *shouldn't be okay with anyone being treated that way, even if for her it is temporary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5570865557642304809.post-35755117722787665222011-04-12T14:07:53.352-04:002011-04-12T14:07:53.352-04:00XY,
Ummmmm...I think she was just glad that at le...XY,<br /><br />Ummmmm...I think she was just glad that at least someone - a gay person, so someone she feels an affinity with - was nice to her on a day people were treating her badly. She's not making a mockery out of anything - she's seriously considering the social ramifications of what she does and learning what feels right to her in terms of modesty. And what, so she's not supposed to be upset that hijabis are treated that way in France and she got to experience firsthand how gross that is? I have a friend who is straight that constantly gets mistaken for gay because she is very masculine, and people treat her poorly because of it. Should she just start acting girlier so people think she's straight? Should she refrain from being unhappy about the fact that people treat her poorly because she isn't actually gay? <br /><br />Getting mistaken for Muslim for a day and getting treated like crap gave her a tiny bit of insight into this social problem in France, so she wrote about it. Her whole POINT was that this oppression is terrible - she's NOT making a mockery out of it. She has nothing to be ashamed of. And she shouldn't accept her <br /><br />By the way, it's a little pathetic that you're anonymously doling out doses of shame to someone when you obviously can't even address them directly and who you obviously don't know very well. <br /><br />- MeganAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5570865557642304809.post-31349400795490097592011-04-12T13:47:44.202-04:002011-04-12T13:47:44.202-04:00@KC
I knew it was a gay cafe because it was liste...@KC<br /><br />I knew it was a gay cafe because it was listed on all the gay Paris webpages as "the" gay cafe in Paris. There were gay couples there, also.<br /><br />As to the checking in frequently-- I hadn't thought of that! That he would check on me more often because he knew I was foreign. I don't usually get people assuming I'm American in this get-up. Frequently, in fact, I get asked if I'm Serbian. But yes, maybe he was checking back so frequently just because he didn't know what to make of me! Which is still interesting, considering the predominant reactions seemed to be to ignore me or to glare at me...Alliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17095657063693931200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5570865557642304809.post-10950920884384877912011-04-12T13:13:12.061-04:002011-04-12T13:13:12.061-04:00This is KC...
Out of curiosity, how did you know ...This is KC...<br /><br />Out of curiosity, how did you know it was a "gay cafe"?<br /><br />One thing about the cafe that you said that I thought was interesting was that he checked back with you frequently, which French people would find highly annoying. I wonder if one reason he kept coming back is because it was bit of an oddity: gay (presumably), strict-ish Muslim (presumably) and an American. I remember reading that most Muslims in France are from North Africa, so I bet your fair complexsion also adds to the mix. <br /><br />...more later<br /><br />KCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5570865557642304809.post-87863306839003900072011-04-12T09:07:12.654-04:002011-04-12T09:07:12.654-04:00XY,
I'm hella proud because of all the places ...XY,<br />I'm hella proud because of all the places I passed in and out of in a hijab Monday, the gay institution was the one where I got treated like a person. You don't think it speaks well of the gay community that they were the only one in this particular area of Paris that treated me well? Why would that not be something to be proud of? Do you not think women in hijabs should be treated well?<br /><br />I'm claiming that of the people working in shops and cafes in this area, the people working in the gay cafe were the only ones who were nice to me. I'm not saying that's true everywhere or all the time-- certainly it's not! I'm simply saying, that it made me proud that in this instant, the gays got points for treating me well!<br /><br />How am I mocking centuries of oppression? I don't think I follow you... And how would you suggest I do it differently? I'm open to suggestions. Once my Lenten discipline is up, I think I'm going to need to work out my own methods of dressing modestly and I could use some suggestions.<br /><br />Why should I be ashamed? For wearing hijab? If that's true, should all hijabis be ashamed or only non-Muslim hijabis?<br /><br />Here's how I see the statement I am making-- I trust you'll feel free to give me your opinion on it. I cover my head in submission to God (as do many people). I'm trying to dress modestly. <br /><br /><br />Please try to be respectful in your response. I'm open to differences of opinions, but do remember I'm a human being and words do hurt!<br /><br />Thanks for the spellcheck, though.<br />Note: above post edited for spelling.Alliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17095657063693931200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5570865557642304809.post-36394147426656719722011-04-11T18:28:29.942-04:002011-04-11T18:28:29.942-04:00I'm curious why you were "hella proud.&qu...I'm curious why you were "hella proud." Is it because a gay person was nice to you? Because to be hella proud of that tells me that it's a rather unique experience, which doesn't speak terribly well of the gay community. Or is it because he was nice to someone he thought was Muslim? Again, I don't think this speaks well of the gay community. Or are you claiming that gays are the only ones who look past appearances and are nice to people simply because they are people. Clearly you don't think the Jews do it, even though they are and were oppressed, and clearly you don't think the Christians do it, considering they completely ignored you. I think it is frustrating and insulting and degrading of you as a Christian to wear a hijab and dress kosher, and then complain that people are judging you for it. If you want to dress modestly, there are ways of doing it that do not make a mockery of another religion's clothing, tradition, and centuries-long oppression. I think you should be ashamed. Whether you want to admit it or not, you are making a statement to the world, and if you're not ready for that, then you need to change what you're doing. Also, "tourist" has an "o" in it.<br /><br />-XYAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5570865557642304809.post-62132763928178791182011-04-11T15:35:17.490-04:002011-04-11T15:35:17.490-04:00Yes, I can't imagine it!Yes, I can't imagine it!Alliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17095657063693931200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5570865557642304809.post-56053178706910445032011-04-11T13:57:40.124-04:002011-04-11T13:57:40.124-04:00that's awful :( totally disgusting.
i imagin...that's awful :( totally disgusting.<br /><br />i imagine it'd be ten zillion times worse if you were muslim in france and had to deal with that like literally every day. <br /><br />- meganAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com